Dear GOP

"wiffleballtony" (wiffleballtony)
03/17/2016 at 11:35 • Filed to: None

Its not me its you. (Political nonsense after the jump, proceed with caution.)

It’s me again, GOP, your old friend Tony. Look we’ve had some good times together. We met when I was a young man, it was coming up on Y2K and it was a crazy time for everyone.

I liked your ideas of personal freedom, lower taxes and a strong military. I also grew up in the right wing stronghold of San Francisco (sarcasm).

What happened to you? You preach fiscal sense but you spend out money like it’s going out of style. All of this bull about “conservative values” really doesn’t do it for me. I don’t care what people want to wear or what they believe, and we should be defending that right instead of alienating them.

This has all gotten way out of hand. Until you get your head together and stop seeing crazy people we need to go on a break.

Sincerely,

Tony.

DISCUSSION (31)

For Sweden > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:37

Memes happened

wiffleballtony > For Sweden
03/17/2016 at 11:38

If I have to see another Trump or Bernie meme, I’ll probably vomit. Much like the dog that’s staying with me after he gets into the potato chips.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:39

The Libertarians are waiting for you my friend.

For Sweden > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:40

Thanks Obama

wiffleballtony > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
03/17/2016 at 11:41

Yeah, unfortunately Libertaria will never exist.

Round headlight enthusiast > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:41

Not with that attitude it won't

wiffleballtony > For Sweden
03/17/2016 at 11:42

That one is actually okay with me. Ever since Obama did his own Thanks Obama.

wiffleballtony > Round headlight enthusiast
03/17/2016 at 11:43

Who is the candidate to vote for then?

LongbowMkII > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
03/17/2016 at 11:46

There’s too many ayn rand acolytes for my taste. Plus I haven’t heard a solution to corporate influence from a smaller weaker central government. When corporate interests figuratively owned the government in the late 19th century it was an awful time for the everyday person.

For Sweden > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:47

Memes are never ok

Berang > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:47

*throws politics into the sun*

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:50

Only if people continue to vote for candidates they don’t believe in for parties they no longer support.

https://www.lp.org/candidates/pre…

There are the candidates, I’m hoping Gary Johnson is the nominee again, the Libertarians select their candidate without primary elections, the party makes the pick.

If they really, really want to be serious I think they need to get on with primary voting so the candidates names are right there with the front runners from the Dems and Reps.

Libertarian party candidate will be on all 50 states presidential ballots this year. Gary Johnson got more votes then any other 3rd party ever last presidential election.

Round headlight enthusiast > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 11:54

I kinda like Gary Johnson, but then again I’m a registered democrat, so take that as you will. Google “libertarian candidate 2016" and you’ll see there’s a whole bunch of candidates.

Btw, if you’re not on the Trump/Cruz bandwagon, you should vote Kasich in the primary. If Trump gets deprived of enough votes it could force a brokered convention that at least opens the possibility of a moderate candidate getting the nomination.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > LongbowMkII
03/17/2016 at 11:55

No party is perfect and I agree I’d like that to not happen.

Hopefully Johnson will come up with a plan for those situations. Corporate interests effect our government too much as it is.

shop-teacher > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 12:00

Yeah, that’s pretty much how I feel.

shop-teacher > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
03/17/2016 at 12:09

They’re a little too far out there for me. I believe in public schools and libraries, and I’m not on board with legalizing all drugs.

PotbellyJoe and 42 others > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 12:10

Conservative used to refer to a literal, constructionist interpretation of the constitution, now it means, “The 2nd amendment is really important, but I forget the other 25"

I’ve been growing ever frustrated with the party since the surge/influx of the neo-cons.

I can’t agree with everything libertarian, so I can’t get fully behind them. At the heart of it I am still conservative, but I get really out of joint when the local GOP chapters fight a non-Christian religious center over “traffic concerns.”

wiffleballtony > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
03/17/2016 at 12:11

I’ll look him up.

wiffleballtony > Round headlight enthusiast
03/17/2016 at 12:14

A brokered convention will have a twofold result of simultaneously killing the party (maybe a good thing) and splitting the vote in a Ross Perotian manner since Trump will run independent.

wiffleballtony > PotbellyJoe and 42 others
03/17/2016 at 12:16

I’ll be honest, if the democrat party had a better view on the second amendment I’d probably vote that way.

Round headlight enthusiast > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 12:49

True, but the party’s so unbelievably messed up right now that there’s no way an establishment candidate could win the general election. Unfortunately you’re in the position where you can either join the mob or split the vote. Gotta pick the lesser of two evils, whatever that is to you.

wiffleballtony > Round headlight enthusiast
03/17/2016 at 13:02

I don’t think this general election is going to be as clear cut as an easy democrat win. Still a lot of things in the mix.

Aaron K > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 13:18

I’m in the same boat. You can call me a social libertarian and a fiscal conservative. I keep getting calls from the GOP to donate money. I tell them point blank that I stopped donating when they stopped being conservatives. They extol me with the dangers of having a democrat win again, and I let them have it with “what difference does it make what letter is after the name if they’re all progressive liberals?” Click. Cool, maybe I’ll stop getting calls now.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > shop-teacher
03/17/2016 at 13:20

It’s all about finding a balance on those topics. And they can say whatever they want about some of those topics, they would need to make it through more than just the Oval Office for anything to change.

And if those are the only 3 complaints I have with their platform I like a lot more that they have to say than the other 2 main parties.

Round headlight enthusiast > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 13:29

No, I don’t think Hillary’s an especially strong candidate. I think a conservative candidate could win. But I don’t think this is a year for the John McCain and Mitt Romney types.

shop-teacher > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
03/17/2016 at 13:30

True, true.

I don’t like either of the main parties myself.

wiffleballtony > Round headlight enthusiast
03/17/2016 at 13:31

Honestly, if she gets indicted that’ll spell big trouble.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > shop-teacher
03/17/2016 at 13:50

Honestly the best we can do is vote for the candidate that matches up with how we feel the best. No matter their party.

shop-teacher > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
03/17/2016 at 14:49

Agreed. I just wish there were some better choices, but such is life.

Round headlight enthusiast > wiffleballtony
03/17/2016 at 15:04

Yeah, if she gets the nomination I’ll be really tempted to vote for the green party. But I also would rather put literally anybody else in office rather than Trump or Cruz, so my hands may also be tied.

wiffleballtony > Round headlight enthusiast
03/17/2016 at 15:19

I’d rather have Bernie than Hilldog or Tump.